ata setups

[ccboe]

I have some questions about these.

my setup
 pri -> 3300(10.2.0.26_2)
everything is connected over the lan / wan

some things I would like to do

loud ringing - something like a gs 285 to an external ringer or the algo 8180
do I just put an appearance of the extension I want to ring
what do I need for licensing on the mitel? now that I'm on 4.2 looks like I have to buy enterprise licenses which are way more expensive that user / device license

remote sites
use analog wireless phones at my bus shop. 2 lines. looks like a ata would do this easy. just have a license (mitel) per line

fax
need an ata with t.83 support and a license on my mitel?

Thanks
Tom

[brantn]

Easiest in the remote shops would be something like a multitech/multivoip they are capable of t38 and have varying port capacity.

[ralph]

Certainly the GS would work as a loud bell but I've never tested it for a fax via t.38.
Haven't heard of anyone using it for fax either.
 I have heard of someone using the Multitech for fax successfully (can't remember who just now) but I haven't tested it myself.

Edited July-15-2012: See the store for more on GrandStream's analog adapter

Ralph

[brantn]

I have used them multiple places.

[ccboe]

how do I have to license them?
from the looks of things I can't buy user / device license for $80 now I have to buy enterprise license @ $120
anyone know why the big increase and what else it has to offer?

Thanks
Tom

[brantn]

An enterprise license correct me if I am wrong if for a multiple controller deployment site. As far as licensing on the multitech you would buy a unit and then you would need a DSP II and T38 licenses and SIP Trunk Licenses for the Site.

IE

Remote 1 - 1 Fax and 1 Phone
Remote 2 - 1 Fax and 1 Phone

2 Multitechs, 1 DSP II, 2 T38 Licenses, 2 SIP Trunks

Of course that is bare bones and could be configured differently. While a local trunk would be cheaper up front a deployment like this would save over the long haul.

[ccboe]

could be. i have 2 controllers but 1 is not plugged in.
looked to me that my sip licenses disappeared after upgrading to 4.2

gonna show my ignorance (I'm a computer guy not phone guy)

what is a dsp II

thanks for the help
Tom

[brantn]

DSP II is the module installed inside the controller to allow for compression and T38. This is a board sold seperately. Shouldn't lose licensing between upgrades check your app record on amc and see if they are there or not.

[ccboe]

check your app record on amc and see if they are there or not.

where do i goto create an account to see this info?

thanks
tom

[brantn]

A Mitel VAR that sold you the unit will be the only ones able to see it from Mitel perspective. You can have another VAR obtain the record but it is a lot of work. What does it show for licensing under system capacity?

[ASCStech]

I've used an ALGO 8180 on a remote site as a loud bell. we have 5312 handsets on the site, so i created a Generic SIP extension for the algo and added it to a couple of ring groups for the extensions that are on site. Works very well. we also connected an external 8 Ohm speaker to it and it's v loud.

Not sure, (and anyone feel free to correct if I'm wrong) but prior to enterprise license you couldn't do SIP unless you had specific 'SIP USER' licenses. I think that when you go to MCD any 'SIP USER' and 'IP DEVICE' licenses and get converted to enterprise licenses, because in MCD there are no 'SIP USER' licenses and 'Generic SIP' is now an option in 'Device Type' when you create a new user. I know that I had no SIP user licenses pre MCD and now i have a number of SIP devices purely because it is now included in one license.

Cheers
Chris

[ccboe]

ASCStech
That is my same setup. But the $300 + for the algo is pricey. Especially if I can do it with a gs 286 and analog ringer (all for less than $100 I would imagine).
I would have to buy a license for either device so that is a wash.

Not being a phone person I'm not real sure how to accomplish this.
The phone I want an external ringer is 5000. I make a sip ext 5001 for the ATA / algo. Then change ext 5000 to something different and make a ring group for 5000 that has both extensions?
I have never done any * groups. Looks like the only * group I have is a hunt group for vmail.


I think that is correct. the new version software does not care if the device is sip. They also gave you the resilience part when you upgraded also. Now it is part of f the enterprise license.

Thanks
Tom

[ralph]

Here's a trick:
Don't renumber 5000.
Create the new SIP device (5001) and be sure it rings ok.
Next, go to multi line key assignment form and look up 5001.
Put 5000 as a key appearance on 5001.
Now they'll both ring.
No one will know that the loud bell is not x5000.

Ralph

[brantn]

Enterprise licensing is more than anything terminology for a mult unit license. You are correct now they are combined as it use to be user and device licensing. SIP trunk and user licenses have been around for many releases.

[ccboe]

Here's a trick:
Don't renumber 5000.
Create the new SIP device (5001) and be sure it rings ok.
Next, go to multi line key assignment form and look up 5001.
Put 5000 as a key appearance on 5001.
Now they'll both ring.
No one will know that the loud bell is not x5000.

Ralph

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had done this for my ipod and desktop phone but was using dss not multiline.


Tom