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Cannot break dialtone
« on: November 19, 2018, 03:26:28 PM »
We have an Office 250 HX V6.3 that occasionally cannot break dialtone. Once the system is reset it works fine for a few days. Comcast is the service provider, we have verified polarity is correct.  All four lines in the controller and two on the LSM are affected. We've ran Hybrid Balance and Loop Loss tests but it keeps happening.


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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 04:15:40 PM »
Did you measure voltage and loop current on the lines to make sure they're within normal range?

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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 09:34:05 AM »
It was not measured with any DVOM, the tech out there has a Loop Current Tester from sandman.com that has always served him well, everything was green on the tester.

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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 09:53:18 AM »
Honestly, this sounds like a bad processor... one or more of the DSP or DTMF generators are failing, we have had it happen before. If you work with support they can help you narrow down the cause but really you just need to RMA the processor or replace it.

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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 12:12:40 PM »
We went onsite today and measured the on hook is 1vdc and off hook is 17vdc with a butt set and 7.86vdc with going off hook with the Mitel

That doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 01:16:32 PM »
The Sandman website has some great tips on troubleshooting, along with a chart showing normal voltage/current ranges.

I once had an argument with AT&T because a phone line worked with the technician's butt set, but not in the PBX. After I showed him my test measurements, he somehow found a bad pair at the cross box.

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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 01:20:39 PM »
after resetting the comcast boxes the on hook voltage went up to 50vdc. that seems right. we will.play the waiting game to see if it happens again and measure voltage if it does. 

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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 02:14:58 PM »
To be honest, voltage is a far less concern than loop current... as long as it's under ~55vDC, we have connected LS ports to ATA's with voltage around 20vDC and not had any issues. And the 5000 doesn't like loop current much under 22ma or much over 30ma.

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Re: Cannot break dialtone
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2024, 10:37:18 AM »
We have had this same problem with multiple 250 lately and now with an SMB. all on comcast.  have you found a fix for the problem besides replacing the processor board ?


 

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