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Title: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on May 30, 2014, 03:46:12 PM
I'm having a discussion internally regarding an issue we've receive a few complaints about.
Users are saying that when they are on speaker phone their phone will ring and disrupt the conversation.

I've never seen a case where this has been true.
I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced that or if you happen to know of a COS toggle that would allow a phone to ring while on speaker.

Has anyone see this happen?

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: bluewhite4 on May 30, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
It will full on ring? Or give the alert tone?
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on May 30, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
Full ring.
I've tried in on my phone and I don't even get a bleep.
That's the way I've always known it to work.

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: jrg0852 on May 30, 2014, 04:02:55 PM
I know when set to "Ring Continuos" we have had customers complain, but as soon as we change to "Ring" trouble is cleared. This couldn't be the case, could it?
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on May 30, 2014, 04:20:32 PM
I tested with my own phone.  My second line is programmed as "ring cont".

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: x-man on May 31, 2014, 08:55:24 AM
I thought that was what 'ring cont' was for ....phone rings even if off hook rather than just an alerting tone?
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on May 31, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
Yes but on speaker phone it doesn't ring audibly at all. 


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Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: jrg0852 on June 02, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
Correct....design intent. What ah interruption that would be if handsfree and a call comes in. It would blast you and the far end.
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 02, 2014, 10:24:34 AM
Unfortunately our customer says it is.
I happen to believe her but I can't replicate it and apparently she can't replicate it at will.

I can't figure out what would be the scenario where it would.

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: lundah on June 02, 2014, 03:15:41 PM
Override?

Try enabling Busy Override Security in the device's COS and see if it stops.
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 02, 2014, 03:19:17 PM
I wouldn't think that would it but it's worth a shot.
Have you seen this before where a phone will ring when on speaker phone?

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: lundah on June 02, 2014, 03:22:03 PM
No I haven't, but that's about the only feature I can think of that's specifically supposed to alert a called busy set.
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: LoopyLou on June 03, 2014, 08:02:20 AM
What kind of phone? Is there potential its cross talk i.e picking up ringing for some other set. Can't otherwise think why you would get rining over the speaker when you are handsfree.
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 03, 2014, 08:30:24 AM
It's a 5340.   
I'm being told it happens even when muted.

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 13, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
I was able to duplicate this.
If your phone is on speaker and muted, when a line rings it will ring the phone and mute the speaker.

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 18, 2014, 11:27:02 AM
Can I get someone to do a simple test for me?
I need verify if this problem exist in earlier software.   I don't have any avail system earlier than 6.

What I need you to do is make an outbound call from a 53XX phone on speaker and then mute the mic.
I tested by calling another tech and then had them just start counting so I had some incoming audio.
Then have someone else ring any other line on your phone. 
What I'm looking for is if the phone actually audibly rings and kills the incoming audio until it stops ringing.

I'll need to know what version of software your system is running.

Thanks
Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: lundah on June 18, 2014, 03:22:37 PM
Can I get someone to do a simple test for me?
I need verify if this problem exist in earlier software.   I don't have any avail system earlier than 6.

What I need you to do is make an outbound call from a 53XX phone on speaker and then mute the mic.
I tested by calling another tech and then had them just start counting so I had some incoming audio.
Then have someone else ring any other line on your phone. 
What I'm looking for is if the phone actually audibly rings and kills the incoming audio until it stops ringing.

I'll need to know what version of software your system is running.

Thanks
Ralph


5330e on MCD 4.0SP4 (10.0.4.26): I get a short ring burst, after that the key (multicall of the prime DN on key 2) just flashes. Ring burst was too short to be able to tell if it does anything with the existing call.
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 18, 2014, 03:38:31 PM
Thanks Lundah,
Any chance you can change the button to Ring Cont to test that way once?
I suspect that will keep ringing.
If the mic is active it won't.

Ralph
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: lundah on June 18, 2014, 04:09:20 PM
Thanks Lundah,
Any chance you can change the button to Ring Cont to test that way once?
I suspect that will keep ringing.
If the mic is active it won't.

Ralph

Yes, it operates exactly as you describe. If the multicall is "Ring Cont.", the ringing mutes out the speaker if the mic is muted. Set for "Ring", and you just get the short burst which doesn't mess with the speaker. Doesn't seem to make a difference if the 5330 set initiated the call on speakerphone or not.
Title: Re: Phone ringing while on speaker phone
Post by: ralph on June 18, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Thanks Lundah,
I've updated my Mitel ticket.

Ralph