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Title: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: mevans1974 on March 13, 2013, 03:12:42 AM
Hi All,
I have a 3300 6.0 and we are using AMB. I notice the lines are not disconnecting as they should. Disconnect supervision are on the lines from the CO however the lines would not disconnect.

Any help would  be great.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0
Post by: ralph on March 13, 2013, 05:56:07 AM
Check the timers in the circ descriptor of the trunk.   Try lowering them by half and retest.

Ralph
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 08, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Hi there,
I am having this problem myself and tried all that you suggested with the timers without success.
Is there anything else that can stop the disconnection.

Help!!

J
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: johnp on April 08, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
Quote
Is there anything else that can stop the disconnection.

Jovan, Are you having a problem where calls don't hang up? The above doesn't makes sense to me.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: acejavelin on April 08, 2013, 11:15:06 PM
I have noticed disconnect issues (rather, a lack of disconnect) on lines on ASUs since upgrading to 6.0, although these are connected to paging controllers in both instances... Not sure if it is related but I moved them to the internal LS ports and have had no issues since then.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 08, 2013, 11:23:43 PM
I see why my post may be confusing.

I have 3 LS analog trunks on my 3300 CX controller running MCD 6.0. 

When the caller hangs up the system doesnt release the trunk and it stays busy.  That trunk cant be used again for up to an hour unless I manually disconnect it or "return them to service" through the command line.

Ive lowered the timers as mentioned by Ralph in the circuit descriptors to no avail.

Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 08, 2013, 11:26:45 PM
Exactly Johnp:  I am having a problem where calls don't hang up when the caller hangs up and the trunks remains 'busy'

Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: johnp on April 08, 2013, 11:34:11 PM
Have you verified that the CO is opening the circuit?
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 08, 2013, 11:42:34 PM
Have you verified that the CO is opening the circuit?

They (the CO) claim that they are.  Is there a way to verify?

I did try it out on an LS trunk that had a 200 ICP which was disconnecting the calls without a hitch.
But it didnt hang up the calls at all.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: LoopyLou on April 09, 2013, 08:03:10 AM
if the trunk is expecting disconnect supervision and its not getting it then it won't hang up. Try flipping tip and ring. To test I think if you check with a volt meter you can see the disconnect.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: acejavelin on April 09, 2013, 08:17:51 AM
Put a voltmeter or tone generator w/LED (anything capable of letting you know voltage is there) across the line, call in to the system from a cell phone and have someone put you hold, then hang up and watch the meter... within about 15 seconds you should see the voltage drop to zero for approximately a second, this will confirm that the central office sending you a disconnect signal.

Note you might want a cheap analog volt meter, some digital meters are too slow to report the voltage drop. You can usually get them at your local hardware or electronics superstore (Lowe's, Menards, Home Depot, Micro Center, Fry's, etc) for around $10.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: ralph on April 09, 2013, 08:23:02 AM
I agree with the analog volt meter.   I've never had a digital meter that was fast enough to catch the voltage change.

Ralph
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 09, 2013, 11:10:58 PM
Ok. Thanks all for the info.  Will do and report on my findings tomorrow
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: LoopyLou on April 11, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
Interesting that both people with the issue are from the Carribbean. Wonder if its a trait of CO's in that area?
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 23, 2013, 11:06:40 AM
Interesting that both people with the issue are from the Caribbean. Wonder if its a trait of CO's in that area?


I didnt take you long to figure that out my friend and you are correct.  The Telco staff have a major 'issue' providing information on the trunk settings.  They sell the systems too and when they havent provided the system they are like talking to a brick wall for info such as trunk settings.

My problem hasnt gone away.  I disabled the voicemail settings sine that was where the calls were held up.  I lowered the timers to the min and still no joy. 

Im trying to figure out if there is a way to detect the line settings with some device or something. 

Perhaps Im wasting time, but the line provider just isnt forth coming with the info and we dont even have a dispute with them.  Last time I asked what was the disconnect timer setting the response was "milliseconds, its milliseconds"

Sorry to vent.  Perhaps I just needed to.  Lol

Suggestions on the next step are still welcome
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: x-man on April 23, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
try increasing the disconnect time up to an beyond 800 msec if needed. Some lines here in blighty are set to 800 msec diconnect clear time and need a time close to that for the disconnect to work.

Or get your line provider to tell you what they set the disconnect clear time to...just keep phoning them and pestering them till you get an answer. Thats what I do with BT here.
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: ralph on April 23, 2013, 04:36:06 PM
You might have to put an analog meter on the line to see if there's a disconnect at all.

Ralph
Title: Re: 3300 6.0 CO Trunks Not Disconnecting
Post by: jovan on April 23, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
I have tried the pestering thing.  They actually found it funny, like dangling the carrot.
I did the analog meter thing.  See below:

line voltage: 48 volts
far-end caller rings: needle fluctuates
call pickup & connect: voltage drops real low (cant remember the reading)
far-end hangs up: voltage drops to about 0 then rises slightly above the "call connect" reading

voltage stays there for over 40 seconds until I manually dicsonnect quickly rises to 48 volts

Is this what is expected?