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Title: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on November 23, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
Hi ,

When internal number 1111 call 2222 ( and 2222 forward call to mobile ) : 1111 are able to join the 2222 mobile.

But when i call from outside with my mobile -->  2222 , i'm not able to join 2222 mobile

CRM/CIM 29

any idea ?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: bigsin on November 23, 2017, 07:41:10 PM
Hi ,

When internal number 1111 call 2222 ( and 2222 forward call to mobile ) : 1111 are able to join the 2222 mobile.

But when i call from outside with my mobile -->  2222 , i'm not able to join 2222 mobile

CRM/CIM 29

any idea ?
Test:
Remove call forwarding of 2222
Outside call to 2222, pick-up the Phone en do a blind transfer to your mobile Phone.

Is this working?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G935F met Tapatalk

Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on November 24, 2017, 04:20:25 AM
Hi ,

When internal number 1111 call 2222 ( and 2222 forward call to mobile ) : 1111 are able to join the 2222 mobile.

But when i call from outside with my mobile -->  2222 , i'm not able to join 2222 mobile

CRM/CIM 29

any idea ?
Test:
Remove call forwarding of 2222
Outside call to 2222, pick-up the Phone en do a blind transfer to your mobile Phone.

Is this working?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G935F met Tapatalk

Hi bigsin ,

Yes , i'm able to pickup the call and forward it to mobile.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: acejavelin on November 24, 2017, 07:54:17 AM
Class of restriction of the trunks would be first suspect, the trunk COR needs to be allowed to make the external call.

Also, depending on the type of trunk and carrier you might need to surpress the caller ID pass through.

You can always view the EDT (PRI/T1) or SIP trace and see why the call is failing.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on November 24, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Class of restriction of the trunks would be first suspect, the trunk COR needs to be allowed to make the external call.

Also, depending on the type of trunk and carrier you might need to surpress the caller ID pass through.

You can always view the EDT (PRI/T1) or SIP trace and see why the call is failing.

I checked my COR and all is OK.

with sip tcpdump i have 403 forbidden.

Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: acejavelin on November 24, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
Class of restriction of the trunks would be first suspect, the trunk COR needs to be allowed to make the external call.

Also, depending on the type of trunk and carrier you might need to surpress the caller ID pass through.

You can always view the EDT (PRI/T1) or SIP trace and see why the call is failing.

I checked my COR and all is OK.

with sip tcpdump i have 403 forbidden.
I am assuming the From number in your Invite is the originating phone number... Your SIP provider is probably rejecting the call based on that since there isn't a valid Diversion or P-Asserted-Identity header being sent. In your SIP Peer Profile, Calling Line ID, change Public Calling Party Number Pass through to No and make sure that you have the Default CPN defined as your main billing number (SIP Pilot Number).

BTW, if you are using an Adtran Netvanta or Total Access 900e series router as your SIP SBC, I have a configuration to get around that and to properly send the original caller ID by adding a diversion header... It works with Broadsoft at least. I don't have a fix for MBG or other SBC's.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on November 30, 2017, 08:19:02 AM
Class of restriction of the trunks would be first suspect, the trunk COR needs to be allowed to make the external call.

Also, depending on the type of trunk and carrier you might need to surpress the caller ID pass through.

You can always view the EDT (PRI/T1) or SIP trace and see why the call is failing.

I checked my COR and all is OK.

with sip tcpdump i have 403 forbidden.
I am assuming the From number in your Invite is the originating phone number... Your SIP provider is probably rejecting the call based on that since there isn't a valid Diversion or P-Asserted-Identity header being sent. In your SIP Peer Profile, Calling Line ID, change Public Calling Party Number Pass through to No and make sure that you have the Default CPN defined as your main billing number (SIP Pilot Number).

BTW, if you are using an Adtran Netvanta or Total Access 900e series router as your SIP SBC, I have a configuration to get around that and to properly send the original caller ID by adding a diversion header... It works with Broadsoft at least. I don't have a fix for MBG or other SBC's.

Hi,

Public Calling Party Number Pass through was already set to NO.
I added only SIP Pilot Number but still have the same issue.

About  SBC , i have an MBG mut i dont use it for sip trunk.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on November 30, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
Can we assume you are using a shortcode in the transfer? If so have you ticked override toll control on the short code?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on November 30, 2017, 02:07:56 PM
Can we assume you are using a shortcode in the transfer? If so have you ticked override toll control on the short code?

I dont use transfert. But call forward from 6920 ip phone to mobile.
When i call from another dn (internal to internal) i m able to reach external destination. But when i call from external i doesn't works.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on November 30, 2017, 02:26:02 PM
Do you have the external number direct in the call forward first alternative or is a call forward on the phone or does either forward to a shortcode first?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on November 30, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
Do you have the external number direct in the call forward first alternative or is a call forward on the phone or does either forward to a shortcode first?

Hi xman
Call forword on the phone
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 01, 2017, 07:56:44 AM
Try call forward on the phone to a system shortcode containing the external number (not forgetting any access code such as 9) and tick overrides toll control.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 01, 2017, 08:17:27 AM
Try call forward on the phone to a system shortcode containing the external number (not forgetting any access code such as 9) and tick overrides toll control.

You want me to make speedcall  to my mobile?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Yes, system speedcall (sorry I still call them shortcodes; its my age) to your mobile then point your phone forward to the system speedcall (don't forget to enable overrides toll control in the speedcall).
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 01, 2017, 09:04:55 AM
Yes, system speedcall (sorry I still call them shortcodes; its my age) to your mobile then point your phone forward to the system speedcall (don't forget to enable overrides toll control in the speedcall).


OK :-)

I run this tests :

456 speedcall to my mobile 33123456789

Phone 2222 forwarded to 456

If i call from 1111 to 2222 i'm able to join the mobile 33123456789

If i call from outside 1111 i'm still able to join the mobile 33123456789
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 01, 2017, 01:07:29 PM
Sorted then?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 01, 2017, 04:41:26 PM
Sorted then?

what do you mean ?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 02, 2017, 07:14:11 AM
The problem you had in this post is now sorted. It is working as you wish?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 03, 2017, 06:49:38 PM
The problem you had in this post is now sorted. It is working as you wish?

Oh sorry i did a mistake in my last post. In the second test if i call from outside 1111 im not able to join mobile.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 04, 2017, 05:30:33 AM
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But when i call from outside with my mobile -->  2222 , i'm not able to join 2222 mobile
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If i call from outside 1111 i'm still [not] able to join the mobile 33123456789

Wel, no you won't as its 2222 that is forwarded...not 1111. Or are you saying that you have forwarded 1111 to 2222 and then want the call to forward to your mobile that is programmed into 2222?

Your posts are not clear. Can you give a definitive answer exactly what you want to happen?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 04, 2017, 06:20:03 AM
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But when i call from outside with my mobile -->  2222 , i'm not able to join 2222 mobile
Quote
If i call from outside 1111 i'm still [not] able to join the mobile 33123456789

Wel, no you won't as its 2222 that is forwarded...not 1111. Or are you saying that you have forwarded 1111 to 2222 and then want the call to forward to your mobile that is programmed into 2222?

Your posts are not clear. Can you give a definitive answer exactly what you want to happen?

Hi Xman ,


Extension 2222 forwarded to mobile.

When an internal extension (1111) call 2222 : --> 1111 able to join mobile
When external (DID) call 1111 : --> note able to join mobile.

It is clear ?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 04, 2017, 06:43:54 AM
Yes. but why should a call to 1111 be able to use the transfer to your mobile on 2222? They are completely separate. If you want to reach your mobile on 1111 set up a transfer (just like 2222) to got to 456.

Or divert 1111 to 2222 ( which is set to divert) and make sure that the programming of number of hops for transfer is set to at least 3.

To be honest I am now really confused as to what you actually want to do?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 04, 2017, 07:28:34 AM
Yes. but why should a call to 1111 be able to use the transfer to your mobile on 2222? They are completely separate. If you want to reach your mobile on 1111 set up a transfer (just like 2222) to got to 456.

Or divert 1111 to 2222 ( which is set to divert) and make sure that the programming of number of hops for transfer is set to at least 3.

To be honest I am now really confused as to what you actually want to do?


I don't now how can i be more clear .

In the morning you work in the office with extension 2222 . the afternoon you have an external appointement so you forward/transfert your extension 2222 to your mobile .

if someone from office call 2222 --> he is able to join u on your mobile.

if someone (Customer) outside office call your DID (2222) --> he is not able to join you on your mobile.

It is clear now ?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 04, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
What does the external caller receive when phoning the DID of 2222 when its forwarded? You do realise it may take a while to connect; often more than you would imagine.... Are you using call forward all or just internal/external norply/busy? If the latter are you sure you have programmed BOTH types and enabled BOTH on the phone?
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: ralph on December 04, 2017, 08:08:20 AM
Odds are really good that it's one of three problems.
1) The COR of the incoming trunks does not allow it to call the cell.
To fix: forward to a system speed dial that has Override Toll Control ticked.

2) The COS does not allow trunk to trunk connections
To Fix: correct your COS of the incoming trunks.

3) Your outbound trunks are forwarding the incoming caller ID and your carrier will not allow that.
To Fix: change your SIP Peer or PRI to not forward the external Caller ID.

Ralph

Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 04, 2017, 09:49:23 AM
Ralph;


"1) The COR of the incoming trunks does not allow it to call the cell.
To fix: forward to a system speed dial that has Override Toll Control ticked."

Done that.

2) The COS does not allow trunk to trunk connections
To Fix: correct your COS of the incoming trunks.

Done that; "Yes , i'm able to pickup the call and forward it to mobile."

3) Your outbound trunks are forwarding the incoming caller ID and your carrier will not allow that.
To Fix: change your SIP Peer or PRI to not forward the external Caller ID.

Done; not the problem


Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 04, 2017, 10:02:49 AM
Hi Raph,

I think , i'm in the assumtion number 3 (Your outbound trunks are forwarding the incoming caller ID and your carrier will not allow that.)

 i have already opened a case at my telco, I wait for the answer
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: x-man on December 04, 2017, 12:56:41 PM
id;

Quote
Hi, Public Calling Party Number Pass through was already set to NO.
I added only SIP Pilot Number but still have the same issue.
Title: Re: Call forward external destination
Post by: sunspark on December 05, 2017, 08:43:15 AM
Solved :

It was the COR of trunk

Trunk Sip : COR 4
Users COR: 12
Ars rout : cor 30

In COR the ARS rout was set : 1-11,13-110
and now : 1-3,5-11,13-110

Thank u guys !