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Title: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 17, 2017, 10:44:51 AM
Hello ,

I have a customer who wants to put music on hold when a user is already in communication (on the second call)

and can then transfer the call to the voicemail after a delay.

Someone has an idea ?

Thanks
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: ZuluAlpha on October 17, 2017, 01:57:05 PM
Sounds like an ACD set up with an interflow timer.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 17, 2017, 06:19:49 PM
Yes with acd but i have to do that for 400 users. I'm not sure I can program only one acd queue.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 17, 2017, 07:28:19 PM
Try this,

Create a RAD (or RAD group) and record basic greeting, Call Reroute 1st Alt to this RAD for the user.
Call Reroute 2nd alt to voicemail.

Caller should ring phone the play RAD and finally land in VM.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 18, 2017, 05:34:01 AM
Good idea Sarond , i will Try

thanks
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 23, 2017, 05:58:03 AM
Try this,

Create a RAD (or RAD group) and record basic greeting, Call Reroute 1st Alt to this RAD for the user.
Call Reroute 2nd alt to voicemail.

Caller should ring phone the play RAD and finally land in VM.


Hi Sarond

So i create Rad group ( 1234 ) // first alternative 5
voicemail (6000) second alternative 7

When i apply to my extesion 7777  ( 1rst 5 and seconde 7) : i go directly to voicemail.
When i apply to my extension 7777 only 1rst alternative : i go to my Rad group.

How can i make it works ?

Thanks.

Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 23, 2017, 06:22:01 AM
Doesn't sound right.

Just confirming
"Call Rerouting First Alternatives" form has 5 set to 'this' for everything and 'Directory Number' 1234 (RAD)
"Call Rerouting Second Alternatives" form has 7 set to 'this' for everything and 'Directory Number' 6000 (Voicemail)

In the 'Call Routing' form, 7777 has call rerouting 1st alt = 5 and 2nd alt = 7.

I'll try and do some testing later on.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 23, 2017, 06:33:42 AM
You also need to make sure the reroute timer (in system options) is longer than the no answer timer.
This is the timer that will set off your reroute 2nd alt.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 23, 2017, 09:02:43 AM
You also need to make sure the reroute timer (in system options) is longer than the no answer timer.
This is the timer that will set off your reroute 2nd alt.

Hi again Sarond,

It works now but i have two issue :

- if i have Multicall keys  :I have to wait until the end of the phone ring before i go to Rad message then voicemail.
- I have Single key : if i receive a second call , i go directly to rad message then voicemail : it is the behavior that the customer wishes , on the other hand i lost multicall functionality

Any dea ?
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 24, 2017, 12:57:52 AM
I don't think there is a way around this.
I do believe there is a COS option regarding one busy all busy for ACD but I haven't had a play with it.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 24, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
I don't think there is a way around this.
I do believe there is a COS option regarding one busy all busy for ACD but I haven't had a play with it.

Thank u Sarond , i opened a Mitel case ...
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: ralph on October 25, 2017, 07:30:14 AM
This is really old school but I think you can do this this way:
Before ACD on the SX2000 we used to do this with hung groups (HG).
Create a hunt group for the user that has all of it's keys as members.
Add a RAD HG in the RAD field of the HG.  The Rad should say something think "Please Hold. Because we're a bit busy."
Reroute the the HG on busy/RNA.
The timers for most of this will be in the COS of the RAD HG.

Ralph
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: johnp on October 25, 2017, 07:08:41 PM
I wonder if adding the COS option Force Device Busy If Any Line In Use under misc would make it work better. Think it might.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 25, 2017, 07:19:23 PM
I wonder if adding the COS option Force Device Busy If Any Line In Use under misc would make it work better. Think it might.

This is the option I was thinking about. I thought it was more designed for ACD where they have an agent ID and an extension programmed as another line appearance.

I don't know if it will work for multicalls of your prime DN though, worth a shot.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: johnp on October 25, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Select Yes to prevent phones from receiving calls when they are already engaged in a call. The incoming calls are immediately forwarded to an alternate destination such as voice mail. If an alternate destination is not available, the system returns busy tone.

This option applies only to line keys that the device "owns". Keys a device owns are:

    appearances of its own prime number

    a phantom DN programmed no where else in the system.

Phantom DNs appearing on multiple devices are thus exempt from the "Force Device Busy If Any Line In Use" option; calls to the DN will alert all devices with an appearance of the DN whether or not the device is busy.

Furthermore, enabling this option effectively turns a multicall group into a one-busy-all-busy group.

NOTE: This option does not apply to Mobile Lines on 6900 series phones.

Think it will work fir 5300 series, seems new phones not...WTF
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 25, 2017, 07:27:57 PM
Maybe the mobile lines is referring to a paired bluetooth mobile??

I can understand if that's the case.

I guess I should've RTFM ;)
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: johnp on October 25, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
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Maybe the mobile lines is referring to a paired bluetooth mobile??

I can understand if that's the case.

I guess I should've RTFM ;)

You know it's all smoke and mirrors...LOL. No one can question your knowledge or support of the Mitel line, IMHO you Rock!.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sarond on October 25, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
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Maybe the mobile lines is referring to a paired bluetooth mobile??

I can understand if that's the case.

I guess I should've RTFM ;)

You know it's all smoke and mirrors...LOL. No one can question your knowledge or support of the Mitel line, IMHO you Rock!.
Thanks for the compliment  ;D
You are a great mentor to others here as well.

To be honest the community as a whole on this forum rocks, I don't think I've seen much else like it.
Everybody is welcoming, willing to share knowledge and are non judgemental, it makes the noobs feel comfortable.

We were all there at some stage and this is a great learning platform.

I must bluff well because my knowledge is nowhere near as great as most of you.
Title: Re: hold on the second call
Post by: sunspark on October 26, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
Select Yes to prevent phones from receiving calls when they are already engaged in a call. The incoming calls are immediately forwarded to an alternate destination such as voice mail. If an alternate destination is not available, the system returns busy tone.

This option applies only to line keys that the device "owns". Keys a device owns are:

    appearances of its own prime number

    a phantom DN programmed no where else in the system.

Phantom DNs appearing on multiple devices are thus exempt from the "Force Device Busy If Any Line In Use" option; calls to the DN will alert all devices with an appearance of the DN whether or not the device is busy.

Furthermore, enabling this option effectively turns a multicall group into a one-busy-all-busy group.

NOTE: This option does not apply to Mobile Lines on 6900 series phones.

Think it will work fir 5300 series, seems new phones not...WTF

Hi Johnp,

i think Your solution is like my solution If i have only Single key : if i receive a second call , i go directly to rad message then voicemail : it is the behavior that the customer wishes , on the other hand i lost multicall functionality

My question : with you solution one-busy-all-busy group , can i pickup the second call while rad message playing ?

Cheers