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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: 9911
« on: November 20, 2023, 10:39:18 PM »
mitel250,

Nice name by the way.

Anyway, someone really has your system messed up if 9911 is the only way 911 works on your system.

By default, 911 is a feature code called Emergency Call. You can look this up for yourself at System > Devices and Feature Codes > Feature Codes > Emergency Call.

When 911 is dialed from an extension on the system it will use the Emergency Extension Route programmed on the extension, default is Trunk Group 92001. You can look this for yourself at System > Devices and Feature Codes > Phones > {extension} > Associated Extensions > Emergency Extension.

I typically set this for Automatic Route Selection [ARS] which is 92000 by default. You can look this up for yourself at System > Devices and Feature Codes > Feature Codes > Automatic Route Selection.

If it is set for ARS, then it will try to use the trunks in ARS Route 1 unless you created a specific Route for it. You can look this up for yourself at System > Numbering Plan > Route Groups. By default, you will find the following Route Groups.

P1000   1   Local   [Dial Pattern: N+][Facility Group P1500: Local]
P1003   2   Toll - Local
P1011   3   Toll - Long Distance
P1013   4   Operator
P1014   5   Internat'l-Station
P1015   6   Internat'l-Operator

Since P1000 is set to Order 1 which is the first Route Group 911 will check, really the only one it will check. It will see the N+ which means any number that starts with the number 2 thru 9 and any number of digits after that, which 911 matches with.

Since by default it matches with P1000 it would go to Facility Group P1500 unless that has been changed. If you look at Facility Group P1500 you will see that uses the following dial rules.

3   Echo 3 Digits After Toll Field
4   Echo Local Address

Since there isn't a Toll used it will follow 4 Echo Local Address or in other words it will send 911. The Trunk it goes out of will be what the Facility Group shows as the First Trunk Group in the List, which by default is 92001.

So, for you to state that you can only dial 9911 to make a 911 call means that someone has made some major changes to your system, and they didn't have a clue as to what they were really doing.

For just 9911 to work it doesn't use the Emergency Call Feature but treats the call as a normal Outgoing Call which uses the Outgoing Extension under Associated Extensions instead of the Emergency Extension. It recognizes it as an Emergency Call due to 911 being configured as the first Emergency Number by default. You can see this for yourself at System > Numbering Plan > Emergency > Emergency Numbers. It will also follow what the Outgoing Extension is set for on the extension that dialed it which by default is 92001, but it could also be set to ARS, which is 92000 by default, see above.

It also seems to me that they started your system as a dial 9 instead of leaving it as a dial 8 which is sort of odd, but there may have been a reason for it. When the systems were first created by Inter-Tel a long time ago, they were configured by default to use 8 as the Outgoing digit so changing it to 9 was a big change. Later on, they allowed the system programmer to create the default to use dial 9, but most VARS stuck with the 8 unless there was a really big reason not to, which typically there wasn't.

You can see what your outgoing feature code is set to by going to System > Devices and Feature Codes > Feature Codes > Outgoing Calls and my guess is that it is set to 9 and all of the 9xxx(x) feature codes start with an 8 now.

So, you have some work to do, but if you have any questions, you can always press F1 on the screen you are on or you can post another question.

Thanks,

TE

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abadich,

You would need to look under Trunk Group 92001 and tell us what type of trunk is there.

Thanks,

TE

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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: Cordless Handset Mic Issue
« on: November 20, 2023, 10:34:32 PM »
Achri332,

It sounds like you need to replace them with a new handset or module.

Thanks,

TE

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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: external inbound silence
« on: November 01, 2023, 12:28:35 PM »
mitel250,

If you go off-hook when the call is coming in but not ringing the phone does it answer it?

If you redirect the DID to another phone can you answer it there?

Thanks,

TE

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dschumacher,

You will probably have to reinstall SA&D again to solve that problem.

If you have Windows 10 or 11 then you will need to get SA&D 6.3 SP4 and install that first and then SA&D 6.3 SP7 and install that second. After that you can install the DB Programming version you need to access the phone system.

There are 32 and 64 bit versions of the software and it depends on whether you have 32 or 64 bit version of MS Office applications already installed on your system on which one to choose.

Sorry,

TE

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greydan31,

The first entry should be the one going to VM and if Station - Busy is set to Yes and the Call Type you are testing with is also set to Yes then it should be going to VM on a busy condition. If you are testing with an IC [Intercom Call] that Call Type is usually set to No and therefore won't send calls to VM as that is usually a condition that you don't want.

The only other thing that I can think of off the top of my head is that there is a User account for Dynamic Extension Express setup for that user and it is controlling forwarding for that user's phone.

Go to Users > {extension} > Enable Dynamic Extension Express: No

If you do that and it starts working, then that is why System Forwarding isn't working as expected.

Thanks,

TE

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dschumacher,

No, there isn't a way to make changes to the extensions to show the extension via the AWP.

You need to get into their system's DB programming.

Depending on if their Feature Codes are default then 396 [Review Keys] can be used to view the keys on the phone to see what they are programmed as. The key that lights up when they answer a call should be their Call Key and that will show you the extension of the device if it doesn't already show up on the display in the upper right-hand corner of it.

Sorry,

TE

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greydan31,

You didn't check the busy condition as one of the conditions when setting up the forwarding path.

You know you can also copy and paste one extension to another and just select the forwarding and flags when pasting to the extension you want to be the same.

Do you work for a VAR or are you the customer?

If you are the customer you may want to get training from your VAR and if you are the VAR you will want to get training from Mitel before they remove that as an option.

I have been thinking about creating a Udemy course for the MiVO-250, but I don't know if it would be worth the time.
 
Thanks,

TE

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greydan31,

System Forwarding is a simple process so let's just go through it and let you figure out what is going wrong.

1. Create an Associated Mailbox for the device you want to create it for. That will automatically setup Message Notification when a message goes into the mailbox and provide you with a Directory entry if you use either First or Last Name.
2. Setup System Forwarding Paths to send calls to the Voice Mail application on Forwarding Point 1. This is located under Phone Related Information > System Forwarding Paths.
3. Verify the System Forwarding Flag is set to yes. Go to System > Devices and Feature Codes > Phones > {extension} > Flags > System Forwarding: Yes
4. Setup the System Forwarding Path. Go to System > Devices and Feature Codes > Phones > {extension} > Forwarding Paths: right-click and add the Forwarding Path to Voice Mail.
5. Click on the System Forwarding Path and verify the conditions can call types that will be forwarded to that path.

That is the basics to System Forwarding on the MiVO-250. You can press F1 on any of the pages to see more information on how that section is programmed.

Thanks,

TE

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greydan31,

Did you make sure that the System Forwarding Flag was set to yes for that extension?

Thanks,

TE

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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: Changing hunt group behavior
« on: October 19, 2023, 08:01:15 AM »
herpderp,

If the forwarding path for 1960 goes to a path that ends up with the other extension you want then you founnd out how it works.

If you want to do the same thing, but opposite of what it is doing now then you just need to create a new Forwarding Path for the other extension to use that goes to 1960 and then point the DID to the other extension. I am not sure I would change the existing ones unless I knew no other phone was using those System Forwarding Paths.

I am not sure what you are asking when you want to put it in DND, but here is my response to that.

If you put 1960 in DND right now and the System Forwarding is turned on for Station - DND on that phone then yes it will go to the other phone right away. However, 1960 will never receive any calls at all after that, even ones you want them to.

You can press F1 on any page you have questions about, and it will send you to the Help for that page.

Thanks,

TE

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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: Changing hunt group behavior
« on: October 18, 2023, 03:54:35 PM »
herpderp,

So, currently the number they are calling goes to x1960 according to your picture.

If you think it goes to a Hunt Group then x1960 would have to be System Forwarded to that Hunt Group.

I would look at x1960 and see what type of System Forwarding it has setup on it. Go to System > Devices and Feature Codes > Phones > 1960 > Forwarding Paths > Click on the First Forwarding path to see where it goes.

You can just change the extension for that DID to the extension you want it to go to, but it may not have the forwarding setup to go to x1960 if they don't answer.

Thanks,

TE

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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: Changing hunt group behavior
« on: October 17, 2023, 08:00:11 PM »
herpderp,

First of all if they are using PXXX then that is an Extension List and all phones in that group will ring at the same time.

If there are multiple PXXX numbers in a Hunt Group then all phones in the top PXXX entry will ring first until the No Answer Advance Timer is up and then it will ring all of the phones in the second PXXX entry and so on.

What you need to do is find the Hunt Group that calls are sent to for the number you are wanting to change things for.

That would depend on how the trunks get into your system and what type they are.

If you know the Hunt Group you want to change then you should see the members in one of two ways.

Each individual Extension will show up as a member in the order you want the extensions to ring in.
Each Extension List will show up as a member in the order you want the list to ring in.

Note: An Extension List can just have one extension in it.

Hope that helps,

TE

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MiVoice Office 250/Mitel 5000 / Re: Launch DB shuts off after 10% loading
« on: October 17, 2023, 04:53:37 PM »
lundah,

It is an Access DB inside the backup you make.

If you change the file type of the database you download from the system to .zip then you can open and see the access db file inside it.

Thanks,

TE

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JeffonJohnsIsland,

Here is what I had to do recently.

1. Install O365 applications.
2. Install 6.3 SP4 SA&D 64-bit software.
3. Install 6.3 SP7 SA&D 64-bit software.
4. Install DB Plugins as needed.

Hope that helps.

Thanks,

TE

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