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lundah,

Thank you for the reply!

I called Mitel TS about this and the only way to change it is via the Users and Services Configuration form on the keys tab; one at a time.

They also told me to submit a DFR to allow it to be changed via a form if that is something we do a lot.

To submit a DFR, please follow KMS Article HT1486 - How to raise a Design Feature Requests DFR (formerly known as Design Change Requests DCR).

Thanks,

TE

32
To those who may know,

I have been working with the 3300 for a bit recently and I have never been able to figure out how to change the first key on the phones without going into each phone individually.

The second key can be done quickly by just exporting and importing the Multiline Set Keys form, but it won't allow you to change the first key.

Since the 69xx phones came out with their My Phone as the first key label we have been directed to change it to be the extension instead; kind of how the 53xx phones did by default.

Does anyone know of a way to change the first key's label to be the extension without going into each extension individually?

Thanks,

TE

P.S. Sometimes I feel like a mental midget on crack who can't figure out which peg is round, and which is square; don't get me started on the star shaped one.

33
jluisr,

Mitel stopped selling those at the end of addon sales in June of 2022 and other vendors wouldn't be able to transfer them to you as far as I know.

Sorry,

TE

34
Teck900,

We don't use the Mitel Hosted Solution as it was never any good and poorly engineered.

When they started the Ring Central stuff it was just a laugh as they would no longer be your customer anymore so that was a no go as well.

The reason we have spent a lot of time deciding on our hosted equipment was because we also wanted to use it for on-premise customers as well. This means you have to support a lot of different configurations with a homogenous solution that is supported by a vendor; kind of like Mitel.

The other way to look at this is whether or not you want to be the company that develops and supports solutions that you design with equipment from various vendors and hope that supplies can be sourced easily and there is training solutions for new technicians. This can be done, but it requires a lot of work and maintenance as well as in-house training that not a lot of companies can afford and those that can don't necessarily want to.

Thanks,

TE

35
josh_marchant,

Just to add a little more clarification to acejavelin's response.

There is also a flag under each extension called Propagate Original Caller-ID that would need to be turned on as well.

Thanks,

TE

36
MrHardwick,

The MiVO-250 HX Controller has 4 built-in Loop Start Ports and the CS Controller has 2 built-in Loop Start Port, but they may or may not be available to use depending on how the system is configured.

If they are available, you would need someone on site to connect, program and balance the trunks.

Thanks,

TE

37
Tripoth,

The easiest thing to do is to just copy the station flags from a working phone to the non-working phone.

If you don't want to do that you can go to System > Phone Related Information > Flags

Make sure you have the extensions in the following folders
Expanded CO Call Information On Displays
Outside Party Call Information has Priority

There are a couple of others flags that deal with Caller-ID depending on your version, but these two are the ones that control whether or not you see Caller-ID from a CO Trunk.

Thanks,

TE

38
This topic has been moved to Aastra - MiVoice Office 400 and MiVoice MX-One as the MiVO-250 doesn't support AD integration.

https://mitelforums.com/forum/index.php?topic=14782.0

39
apope,

You can absolutely change your call flow to go to a Hunt Group with two operators and it won't cost you anything except a technician's time to do the work if you can't do it yourself.

However, you will need to purchase another Attendant Console software pack to get another License USB Key. The problem is that Mitel is no longer selling new ones after June 30, 2022 [see Appendix B of bulletin], so if your vendor doesn't have the one you need in their warehouse then you may have to go to a reseller or E-Bay to find another key. Just keep in mind that the key has to match the environment [Single Node or MultiNode].

License 550.5310 ATTENDANT CONSOLE MULTI-NODE
License 550.5312 ATTENDANT CONSOLE V3.2 SINGLE NODE

Thanks,

TE

40
Rishi,

Although this can be done it is not a simple process.

I would call your vendor to do it as it requires getting into every system.

Thanks,

TE

41
acejavelin,

I think I seen a similar one, but it wasn't the same error you have, it was fixed in 6.3 not sure the SP version though.

Sorry,

TE

42
niddet,

This is a fun one as I haven't worked on a MiVO-250 in a few years, and I don't ever recall doing this type of thing.

Although the simplest solution is the one most over-looked and that is to change 7 to 9007 and then change your TG92001 to 7 and then have the users dial 7+ to access the other PBX. Keep in mind you would need to configure the CO Trunk Group > Toll Restriction to allow for this by setting Subject to Toll Restriction set to NO and Exempt from ARS Only to YES. Since this wasn't your first solution, I am going to assume this is not an option for your situation so let's take a look at other more complex to implement solutions.

First of all are you ever going to use the original 911 or 999/112 since they want Emergency calls to go to 2222? It seems to me that 2222 is a Security Guard type of solution and not a true PSAP solution, but I could be wrong as I don't know the complete situation.

Secondly, what type of link is the PSTN you have between the two sites as this may determine how to get things to work properly. I assume it is either an E-1 or SIP, but T-1 is an option too. If it is a T-1 how do you have the channels configured DID, E&M, Loop Start or OPX?

As for dialing 3000-5999 extensions it depends on how you have your link setup, but the first thing is to add 90 to all of the feature codes that start with anything other than 9 or 8. For single digit feature codes 4 and 5 add 900 instead. For example a single digit like 4 would be 90004 and a triple digit not starting with 9 like 301 would be 90301.

Next create a phantom for each extension and then forward that call to the link between sites and have it dial the same digits. This would work for 2222 as an Emergency call as well but I assume you haven't done this due to your original post. If they have more than 250 extensions then this method will not work, and you will need to setup something different. In that case we would definitely need to know how the link is setup in order to do that, if it is even possible.

By the way, making 2222 an Emergency number only works if you are not using ARS and it is just for sending out the Emergency Alert to whomever you have setup as an Administrator.

When dialing a number such as 2222 is it going to try and match it up with an extension on your system as PSTN phone numbers are much longer. You could adjust your numbering plan patterns under Online Monitor, but I don't suggest that if ever want to use the system normally.

So, there are a few things I would try to get the Emergency routing to work without having to train the entire staff to do something different things for emergency calls, but I am going to assume that you can manually select Trunk Group 92001 and dial 2222 and it works.

1. Change the Emergency Extension from 999 to 2222 which will make all Emergency Calls go to the Emergency Trunk Group and dial 2222. Create a new Facility Group, default first is P1506, label is Emergency and remove everything but 4 - ECHO Local Address. Create a Route Group, default first is P1001, move it to the top of the route list and set the dialed pattern to 2222. Make the new Facility Group P1506 the group that is used for that Route Group. I don't recomend this method as it changes the default Emergency Feature code which may cause issues if you have to move the system later on or you need a secondary path to a real PSAP through TG92002 or TG93001

2. Keep the Emergency Extension as 999 and trick the system into dialing what you want within the Facility Groups. Create a new Dial Rule with the digits 2222#; 8 is the first open add rule by default. Create a new Facility Group, default first is P1506, label it Local Emergency and remove everything and add the new Dial Rule that dials 2222#. Create a new Route Group, default first is P1001, label it Emergency and move it to the top of the route list and then set the dialed pattern to 999. Make the new Facility Group P1506 is the first group that is used for that Route Group. I would also create another Facility Group for Emergency add the local PSTN route that goes to the PSAP as the secondary route in case the Primary route is down. I would also remove all of the rules except the 4 - ECHO Local Address. This doesn't allow for you to dial 2222, but in essence it should select the first available Trunk Group and dial what you want it to, in this case 2222#. If it makes it to the second Trunk Group out the PSTN it will only dial the Local Address which in this case would be 999.

To be honest I have not implemented these types of solutions in a long time and without looking at a DB and doing some testing I can't be certain something wasn't missed, but I think I covered the most obvious solutions and required changes to the problem.

Thanks,

TE

43
NTEDave,

No, I had not looked at that one either.

Is that the one your company uses as a replacement for Mitel equipment now?

What made you choose that over other options?

Thanks,

TE

44
acejavelin,

I think my writing style may have been misconstrued.

I am not saying that it isn't a good system as I have never seen it before and wondered why your company went that route.

I have looked at a lot of systems over the past few months and not one person even talked about this one, so I was curious about it from a technical person's point of view.

From what you said it sounds like a really great system and the support seems too good to be true, and I have added it to my list of systems to look into.

Thanks,

TE

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acejavelin,

I am curious if you were aware of other products that were looked at besides Zultys and why they chose to go that route?

I totally get the ComXchange system for hospitality as that is a nice system, not that Zultys isn't a good system, but we didn't get a demo of that one.

Thanks,

TE

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